Breed profile
Irish Red and White Setter: Price in India, Heat and Health
The older of Ireland's two setters, recognised last by every register that recognises both.
Quick answer
Irish Red and White Setter price in India cannot be sourced, because no verified Indian litter, breeder or registry entry exists for the breed. It is Ireland's older setter, FCI standard 330, and the solid red Irish Setter was bred out of it. Only 22 puppies were registered with the UK Kennel Club in 2025, the lowest of any setter. Its OFA hip record is the best of the four and its thyroid record the fourth worst of 130 breeds published.
This page reports published veterinary research, registry screening data and breed standards. It is not veterinary advice and it cannot diagnose your dog. Screening percentages describe populations, not the animal in front of you. Talk to a registered veterinary practitioner before you change a diet, start a preventive, plan a screening radiograph, or act on anything you read here, and treat sudden abdominal swelling, unproductive retching or collapse in a deep-chested dog as an emergency and go to a vet immediately.
Irish Red and White Setter at a glance
What an Irish Red and White Setter is, and what the standards actually say
An Irish Red and White Setter is a large Irish pointing gundog, FCI standard number 330, carrying clear islands of solid red on a pearl-white base coat and bred primarily for the field rather than the show bench.
The breed sits in FCI Group 7, Pointing Dogs, Section 2, British and Irish Pointers and Setters, Subsection Setter, alongside the English Setter at number 2, the Gordon Setter at number 6 and the Irish Red Setter at number 120. Its country of origin is Ireland, its official authentic language is English, and it is subject to a working trial under FCI nomenclature.
The standard opens with an instruction, not a description, and that is unusual. FCI 330 states that the Irish Red & White Setter is bred primarily for the field, that the standard must be interpreted chiefly from this point of view, and that all judges at bench shows must judge the exhibits chiefly from the working standpoint. The AKC standard repeats the same sentence almost word for word. Two registries on two continents therefore agree that a show judge is being told to think like a field judge, which is worth knowing before you buy a dog described as a show line.
Size, and the three registries that disagree about whether to give one
| Measure | FCI Standard No. 330 | AKC official standard | Kennel Club standard |
|---|---|---|---|
| Height, dogs | 62 to 66 cm (24.5 to 26 in), desirable | 24.5 to 26 in (62 to 66 cm) | no size given |
| Height, bitches | 57 to 61 cm (22.5 to 24 in), desirable | 22.5 to 24 in (57 to 61 cm) | no size given |
| Weight | not stated | not stated in the standard | no size given |
| Height penalty | Severe fault if not conforming | none stated | none stated |
| Body proportion | not stated | Length equal to or longer than height, up to 10 L to 9 H | not stated |
| Standard date | 19.04.2005, published 15.06.2005 | Approved 9 July 2019 | Last updated 1 November 2025 |
Two of the three registries give an identical height range and the third gives none at all. The FCI and the AKC agree exactly, 62 to 66 cm for dogs and 57 to 61 cm for bitches American Kennel Club. The Kennel Club's breed standard, last updated on 1 November 2025, carries no Size section whatever, running straight from Coat to Colour to Faults. That is not a quirk of this breed: the Kennel Club's Irish Setter standard omits size in exactly the same way. So a page quoting a Kennel Club height for either Irish setter has taken it from somewhere else.
The AKC breed page gives 42 to 60 pounds for males and 35 to 50 pounds for females, which is roughly 19 to 27 kg and 16 to 23 kg. That figure appears on the breed page, not in the official standard, which states no weight at all. Quote it as a registry page figure rather than as a standard, because the two carry different authority and only one of them is what a judge applies.
Coat and colour, where the breed is decided
Colour is the one place the standard uses the word eliminating. FCI 330 requires a base colour of white with solid red patches, described as clear islands of red colour, and permits flecking but not roaning around the face and feet, up the foreleg as far as the elbow and up the hindleg as far as the hock. Visible and excessive roaning, flecking or mottling anywhere else is an eliminating fault. The Kennel Club puts the same rule in plainer words, requiring the dog to be clearly particoloured with a pearl white base, and adds that any other colour or combination of colours is unacceptable.
The coat itself is long, silky, fine feathering on the back of the fore and hind legs and on the outer ear flap, with a reasonable amount on the flank extending onto the chest and throat to form a fringe, and short flat hair everywhere else. Slight wave is permissible and curl is not. That distribution matters more in Chennai than in Kildare, because the feathering sits exactly where an Indian dog picks up ticks and holds monsoon damp, which the grooming section below works through in detail.
The older breed: what the registers say about which setter came first
The Irish Red and White Setter is the older of Ireland's two setters and the solid red Irish Setter was bred out of it, and both breeds' own governing standards say so in writing rather than leaving it to folklore.
Most English-language breed pages present the Irish Red and White Setter as a white-marked version of the famous red dog. The registers say the opposite, and they say it twice, from both directions.
"It is not well known outside of Ireland that there are two breeds of Irish Setters, but is fairly certain, that the Red and White Setter is the older of the two, and that judicious selective breeding evolved the solid red colour. When Irish Setters came to the show benches, just past the middle of the 19th century, there was a good deal of confusion about their proper colour. By the end of the 19th century, the Red Setter had virtually eclipsed the Red and White, which became so rare, that they were thought to be extinct."
"The Irish Red Setter was developed in Ireland as a working dog for hunting game. The breed is derived from the Irish Red and White Setter and an unknown solid red coloured dog. It was a clearly identifiable type in the 18th century."
So the descent is not contested between the two documents, it is stated in both. FCI 120 says the red breed is derived from the red and white breed. FCI 330 says the red and white is the older and that selective breeding evolved the solid red out of it. English is the official authentic language of both standards, so neither sentence is a translation artefact FCI breeds nomenclature entry.
The Kennel Club, writing independently, opens its Irish Red & White Setter page with the sentence "The Red and White Setter was the original Irish Setter", and explains that the colour was preferred because it made the dog easier to spot when working at a distance. On the Irish Setter page the same registry describes the red dog as the product of selective colour breeding and some outcrossing to get a racier build and a longer head, producing a dog glamorously coated, lighter in bone and finer in the head than its cousins.
A third Irish setter existed, and it is gone
Ireland had three setter breeds and one of them is extinct. The Kennel Club's Irish Setter page names it: the rarely seen Hail Setter, which had white ticks in its red coat and is now believed to be extinct. That leaves the red and the red and white, and the red and white came within a generation of joining it. FCI 330 records that by the end of the nineteenth century the red and white had become so rare that it was thought to be extinct, that efforts to revive it were made during the 1920s, and that by 1944 it had re-established itself well enough to have a club of its own.
The revival is recent enough to date precisely. The present club, the Irish Red & White Setter Field & Show Society, was formed in 1981, and the standard credits its work with establishing the breed nationally and internationally. The FCI accepted the breed on a definitive basis on 6 June 1989, eight years after that society was founded.
The genetics agree with the history
Two papers published in 2002 confirmed the shared ancestry with a mutation rather than a pedigree. Canine leucocyte adhesion deficiency, a lethal recessive immune disease, was first documented in Irish Setters. Debenham and colleagues at the Animal Health Trust tested 76 Irish red and white setter samples for the same CD18 point mutation and found six carriers, all from a lineage in which sporadic deaths consistent with the disease had been observed. Their paper describes this as the first demonstration that the CLAD mutation exists outside the Irish setter population.
In the same year Foureman, Whiteley and Giger screened US Irish Red and White Setters for the Irish Setter Cys36Ser mutation and found seven carriers among 54 dogs, 13 percent, five of them directly related to a single sire imported from the United Kingdom. Their paper states the relationship in one sentence: the Irish Red and White Setter has a history of interbreeding with Irish Setters and shares a common ancestry with the Irish Setter breed. A shared lethal recessive is harder to argue with than a pedigree book, and it is the strongest evidence either breed page can offer that the two dogs are one population split by colour.
Recognition: the older breed was admitted last by every register that recognises both
Every major register admitted the solid red Irish Setter decades before it admitted the older Irish Red and White Setter, by 34 years at the FCI and by 131 years at the American Kennel Club, and the dates are printed on the registers' own pages.
| Event | Irish Red and White Setter | Irish Setter | Gap |
|---|---|---|---|
| Breed club founded | Club of its own by 1944; present society 1981 | Irish Red Setter Club, 1882 | 62 years |
| Breed standard issued by the club | not dated in the FCI standard | 1886 | n/a |
| FCI definitive recognition | 6 June 1989 | 22 December 1954 | 34 years 6 months |
| FCI standard number | 330 | 120 | 210 numbers |
| AKC Miscellaneous Class | effective 27 June 2007 | n/a | n/a |
| AKC full recognition | 1 January 2009, the 159th breed | 1878 | 131 years |
| AKC popularity rank | 162 of 210 | 73 of 210 | 89 places |
The American figures in that table come off the AKC's own breed pages, which record the Irish Setter as recognised in 1878 and ranked 73 of 210 for popularity, against 2009 and 162 of 210 for the older breed American Kennel Club breed page. The FCI numbering itself records the order. A low FCI number means an early entry in the nomenclature, and the four setters run English Setter 2, Gordon Setter 6, Irish Red Setter 120 and Irish Red and White Setter 330. On definitive-acceptance dates the order is the same: Irish Red Setter on 22 December 1954, English Setter on 6 March 1963, Gordon Setter on 28 May 1963, and the Irish Red and White Setter last, on 6 June 1989 FCI breeds nomenclature entry.
The FCI prints dates as month/day/year, not day/month/year, and the register proves its own format. The Irish Red Setter's page carries 7/18/2001, 8/31/2001 and 2/22/2002 in its standards table, and 18, 31 and 22 cannot be months. The Irish Red and White Setter's page carries 6/15/2005 four times, and 15 cannot be a month either. So 12/22/1954 is 22 December 1954 and 6/6/1989 is 6 June 1989. Reading the same fields as day/month would move the red breed's recognition to December 1954 either way but would move the English Setter's from 6 March 1963 to 3 June 1963.
What recognition means for an Indian buyer
India's answer runs through the FCI, and that is checkable. The FCI members register lists India as a full member represented by the Kennel Club of India in Chennai, so the KCI issues pedigrees against FCI nomenclature. Because the Irish Red and White Setter is recognised by the FCI on a definitive basis, an FCI-pedigreed dog of the breed is in principle registrable in India. In principle is doing real work in that sentence, because recognition creates a route on paper and says nothing about whether any dog has ever travelled it.
A separate limit is worth stating plainly rather than dressing up as a finding. The Kennel Club of India publishes no per-breed registration list, so a query there returns nothing for this breed and nothing for a common control breed either. That is a limit of the source, not evidence about the breed, and Bonbeno reports it as a limit.
The registration restriction nobody outside the UK has noticed
With effect from 6 January 2025 the Kennel Club closed its register to untested imports of this breed. Imported Irish Red and White Setters, and litters from overseas sires, are only eligible for Kennel Club registration if they are proven clear or carriers of canine leukocyte adhesion deficiency, or hold hereditary clear status. Identified carriers may still be bred from, provided they are mated only to a dog that is hereditarily clear or DNA-tested clear. The registry states that the scheme was introduced at the request of the breed clubs to safeguard the UK population from the reintroduction of the condition.
The same restriction applies to the Irish Setter from the same date and covers two conditions rather than one, CLAD and progressive retinal atrophy rcd1. Read together, those two announcements tell you which way the disease risk is thought to travel, which is inward, on imported dogs, into small populations that had cleaned themselves up.
Irish Red and White Setter price in India: no figure exists, and here is what is being sold instead
No Indian price for an Irish Red and White Setter can be sourced, because not one page ranking in India for the term carries a rupee figure for the breed, and every rupee figure the search engines attach to it belongs to a different dog.
Bonbeno pulled the top ten organic results in India for irish red and white setter price in india on 31 August 2026, scraped each one, and read the prices out of the raw page rather than out of a snippet. Nine of the ten results are not Indian pages, and the one that is contains no dog of the breed.
| Position and source | Price given | What the page actually holds |
|---|---|---|
| 1. Dog Breeds List, United States | USD 1,800 to 2,500 | A US reference page. The word India appears nowhere on it |
| 2. Good Dog, United States | USD 2,600 to 2,600 | A US breeder directory. A range with identical endpoints |
| 3. American Kennel Club | none | Registry breed page. No price, no currency, no mention of India |
| 4. A Canadian breed page | USD 1,000 to 2,500 | Every image is AI-generated. Three different exercise figures on one page |
| 5. Royal Kennel Club | none | Registry breed page, no price in any currency |
| 6. Wikipedia | none | No numeric price anywhere in the article |
| 7. IRWS Association of America | none | A breeders directory with no prices |
| 8. Justdial, Delhi | none | Five pet shops, no dog of the breed, and four of the five are not in Delhi |
| 9. A US puppy marketplace | USD 500 to 2,500 | A different breed. The page is entirely about the Irish Setter |
| 10. A US pet-care publisher | could not retrieve | The domain refused retrieval, so nothing is reported from it |
The single India-hosted result is worth describing properly, because it is the whole Indian market for this term. It is a Justdial category page titled for pet shops selling the breed in Delhi. It names five businesses, of which one is in Delhi and the others are in Dehradun, Jhansi, Kota and Surat, it shows shopfront photographs rather than dogs, and its own meta description advertises pet shops for German Shepherds and Labradors. No animal of the breed appears on it and no price for the breed appears on it.
Bing India's AI-generated summary for this exact query states that the price of an Irish Red and White Setter in India typically ranges from thirty thousand to one lakh rupees, offers two further bands, and footers itself "Content was generated with AI". Every source it cites is an Irish Setter page. On the same results page, all four People Also Ask questions silently substitute the Irish Setter, and exactly one organic result out of roughly a dozen is genuinely about the Irish Red and White Setter, which quotes no price at all. So an answer engine is manufacturing a rupee band for a breed with no Indian market by reading a different breed's pages. Bonbeno records the mechanism and publishes no figure.
Why there is no price rather than merely no listing
A price needs a seller, and the breed's own parent club directory has none anywhere in Asia. The Irish Red and White Setter Association of America publishes a breeders directory updated in May 2026. Bonbeno counted it: 26 kennels, 24 across twelve United States and two in Ontario, and none in India or anywhere else in Asia. The directory carries no prices at all, and its own note says the association does not endorse any breeder.
One Indian commercial site answers the question by omission. A pet marketplace advertising Irish Setter puppies for sale in India prints its full breed dropdown twice, running to roughly 330 entries and including the English Setter, the Gordon Setter, the Irish Terrier and the Irish Wolfhound. The Irish Red and White Setter is not among them. A site that sells 330 breeds and does not list this one is telling you what it can source.
For contrast, the same search in India for the solid red breed does return Indian rupee figures, and they disagree with each other by two to four times: ₹40,000 to ₹80,000 on one Indian breed page against INR 90,000 to INR 3,00,000 or more on an Indian marketplace, on the same day. So the honest answer to the query is a refusal. Bonbeno will not convert a dollar figure into rupees, will not average the three foreign bands above, and will not repeat an answer engine's number. What a reader can act on instead is the recurring cost of keeping a dog of this size in India, which is real, published and priced in rupees, and which the cost section below sets out line by line.
Why no Indian supply exists, proved rather than assumed
No lawful route exists for an Irish Red and White Setter breeding population to form in India, because the DGFT permits dog imports only for a personal pet, for research or for state security, and the world supply of the breed is roughly the size of one Indian pet shop's annual turnover.
Start with the search instrument, because an absence is only worth publishing if the search worked. Bonbeno ran a control query, labrador retriever price in india, in the same tool in the same session. It returned ten results, all unambiguously about dogs, including Indian breed guides, Indian marketplaces and Indian price videos. A separate Bing India control returned a genuine India-localised results page reporting about 27,500 results with ten Indian pet-commerce domains. The instrument was working, so the absence of any Indian Irish Red and White Setter listing is a finding rather than a broken query.
The law, quoted rather than summarised
Dogs are a Restricted import in India under ITC(HS) 01061900. DGFT Trade Notice 22/2022-23 of 19 December 2022 sets out Policy Condition 7, which allows import of dogs only for three purposes: a pet dog with a valid pet book and relevant records in the name of the importer, dogs imported by research and development organisations with the recommendation of the CPCSEA, and dogs for internal security by the Defence and Police Force. Policy Condition 8 adds that import of commercial dogs for breeding or any other commercial activity beyond those purposes is not permitted.
Paragraph 6 of the same notice removes the remaining ambiguity, stating that any applications for trading or breeding purposes, or applications made on behalf of another person or entity, shall be duly rejected. Paragraph 7 limits entry to the airports and seaports of Delhi, Mumbai, Chennai, Hyderabad, Bangalore and Kolkata, six named locations, with quarantine at the government station of those ports where required. DAHD added a seventh port, Cochin International Airport at Kochi, for pets arriving under the baggage rules in October 2024. The full route is set out in how to import a dog to India.
A person transferring residence to India after more than two years of continuous stay abroad may bring up to two cats or dogs as passenger baggage without a DGFT authorisation. Anything else, including a shorter stay abroad, a pet not travelling as baggage, more than two animals, or a temporary import, needs an import authorisation applied for through DGFT with supporting documents examined by the Department of Animal Husbandry and Dairying, and the notice advises starting at least two months before travel. That route moves one household's own dog. It cannot stock a breeder.
The supply side arithmetic
The Royal Kennel Club registered 22 Irish Red and White Setters in 2025, the lowest figure in the breed's own ten-year table and less than half its 2020 peak of 83. Over the decade 2016 to 2025 the breed's annual registrations ran 63, 70, 51, 39, 83, 46, 77, 46, 49 and 22 The Royal Kennel Club.
| Breed | 2016 | 2018 | 2020 | 2021 | 2022 | 2023 | 2024 | 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Irish Red & White Setter | 63 | 51 | 83 | 46 | 77 | 46 | 49 | 22 |
| Gordon Setter | 263 | 172 | 268 | 244 | 251 | 137 | 165 | 93 |
| English Setter | 285 | 290 | 140 | 293 | 212 | 250 | 185 | 176 |
| Irish Setter | 775 | 724 | 645 | 935 | 825 | 684 | 647 | 480 |
| Labrador Retriever | 33,856 | 36,526 | 39,905 | 61,559 | 44,311 | 38,074 | 34,141 | 29,919 |
The Kennel Club publishes this breed's numbers twice, in its Gundog group ten-year registration PDF and in its vulnerable native breeds web table. Bonbeno compared all ten cells for this breed across both documents and found zero disagreements. The gundog PDF's own column totals also reconcile: summing every breed row gives 84,780 for 2016 through to 74,960 for 2025, matching the printed totals in all ten columns once the Barbet's short row, which starts in 2018, is aligned. That check matters because the same registry's Terrier and Toy group tables are known to disagree with their web equivalents.
Put the two halves together and the conclusion is structural rather than anecdotal. The lawful import route moves a household's own pet and rejects breeding applications outright, and the breed's largest registry produced 22 puppies in a year The Royal Kennel Club. There is no supply to import and no lawful way to import it for breeding, which is why a search for an Indian price returns nine foreign pages and an empty category shell.
What this dog actually costs in India, in rupees, line by line
Keeping a 25 to 32 kg long-coated dog in an Indian metro costs real money that can be sourced precisely, starting at Rs 360 for a DHPPi+L dose at a government teaching hospital and running to about Rs 2,499 for one full groom at a Bengaluru clinic chain.
There is no Indian purchase price for this breed and there are excellent Indian care costs, and the two should not be confused. Everything below is a published rupee figure for a service or product an Indian household actually buys, sized to a large long-coated dog, with the source named. None of it is converted from a foreign currency.
| Line | Figure as printed | Source and what it is |
|---|---|---|
| DHPPi+L vaccination, one dose | 360 | Madras Veterinary College Teaching Hospital, TANUVAS, published fee structure |
| Anti-rabies vaccination | 160 | Same government fee structure |
| Small animal registration, 7 days | 100 | Same, and the hospital dispenses drugs and fluids free of cost |
| Radiograph | 100 | Same government fee structure, per the X RAY line |
| Major surgery | 1,500 | Same |
| Emergency surgery | 2,500 | Same. Surgical charge only, not an all-in bill |
| New consultation, private chain | ₹300 to ₹800 | Vetic clinic chain's own published table, April 2026 |
| Radiograph per view, private chain | ₹500 to ₹750 | Same, with light sedation at ₹800 to ₹1,500 |
| Deworming, 6 tablets | ₹778, MRP ₹894 | Tata 1mg listing, Drontal Plus, praziquantel plus pyrantel plus febantel |
| Tick and flea spot-on, 20 to 40 kg | ₹1,561 for 3 pipettes | Supertails listing, Frontline Plus, one pipette per 30 days |
| Complete groom, over 25 kg, long coat | ₹2,499 | Supertails+ clinic grooming, Bengaluru, twelve locations |
| Bath and blow dry, over 25 kg | ₹1,089 | Same price list |
| Dematting add-on | ₹599 | Same price list. Deshedding is also ₹599 |
| Boarding, large breed, per day | ₹800 | Aruani PetStop, Sarjapur Road, Bengaluru, August 2026 |
| Large-breed dry food, 15 kg | ₹9,548, MRP ₹11,000 | Supertails listing, Royal Canin Maxi Adult, retailer's own rate ₹63 per 100 g |
Three lines this particular dog generates that a short-coated dog does not
Grooming is the big one and it scales with both weight and coat. The Bengaluru price list Bonbeno checked prices a complete groom at ₹1,999 for a large short-coated dog over 25 kg and ₹2,499 for a large long-coated dog, a ₹500 premium per visit that this breed pays every time. Add ₹599 for dematting on a coat that has been left through a monsoon and the gap widens. The Kennel Club's stated frequency for the breed is more than once a week, which is home combing rather than salon visits, but the salon visit is where the feathering gets sorted.
Ear care is a recurring cost driven by an anatomical fact. Drop-eared dogs carried 47.72 percent of 1,008 Indian otitis externa cases against 28.07 percent for prick-eared dogs, and the monsoon carried 41.87 percent of cases. A consultation for an ear at a private Indian chain starts at ₹300 and a follow-up at ₹200, so two ear episodes a year is a real line rather than a hypothetical one.
Tick preventive is not optional on a feathered dog in India, and Indian law treats de-ticking as part of grooming. A 20 to 40 kg spot-on works out at roughly ₹520 per month from the pack price of ₹1,561 for three pipettes. Second Schedule Part IV paragraph 27 of the 2017 Rules requires that regular de-ticking shall be practised at the time of grooming.
An Indian breed page for the solid red Irish Setter prints three monthly lines, food at ₹3,000 to ₹4,500, healthcare at ₹1,500 to ₹2,250 and grooming at ₹1,200 to ₹1,800, and then labels a headline figure of ₹5,700 as Avg Monthly Expenses and ₹8,550 as Basic Lifestyle. Add the three lows: 3,000 plus 1,500 plus 1,200 is exactly 5,700. Add the three highs: 4,500 plus 2,250 plus 1,800 is exactly 8,550. So ₹5,700 is the basic total and ₹8,550 the premium total, and the page has swapped its own labels. The figures are internally coherent; the presentation is not. Check the arithmetic before quoting any Indian cost panel.
A defensible monthly range for this dog in an Indian metro comes out around ₹6,000 to ₹10,000 excluding food brand choice, built from the lines above rather than borrowed: roughly ₹1,900 to ₹2,400 of food on a 15 kg bag at ₹63 per 100 g lasting about a month for a large adult, ₹520 of tick preventive, one groom amortised at ₹2,499 every six to eight weeks, and periodic deworming and consultation Supertails+ clinic grooming price list Tata 1mg product listing. Bonbeno publishes that as a construction from named figures, not as a survey, and the food line moves most.
Boarding is the line that surprises people, at ₹800 a day for a large breed at a named Bengaluru facility publishing its own 2026 tariff, which is roughly a month of tick preventive for one week away. The costs nobody budgets for are the surgical ones. A Madras Veterinary College emergency surgery charge is Rs 2,500 and a major surgery charge Rs 1,500, at a government teaching hospital that also dispenses drugs and fluids free. A private metro bill for the same event is a different order of magnitude, and for a deep-chested breed the event most likely to produce one is gastric dilatation-volvulus, which the bloat section above covers.
Heat tolerance: a 10.1 degree homeland against a 27.9 degree city
The Irish Red and White Setter comes from a country whose warmest month averages 15.1 degrees Celsius, which is 5.1 degrees colder than the coolest month in Bengaluru, so every Indian city is outside the climate this coat was assembled for.
Bonbeno pulled twenty-year monthly climatologies from NASA POWER by explicit latitude and longitude, covering January 2001 to December 2020, for two Irish reference points and the seven Indian metros most likely to house a large gundog. Wet-bulb temperature is computed from the same monthly means using Stull's 2011 formula, because wet-bulb is what tells you whether a panting dog can shed heat at all.
| Place | Cell elevation | Annual mean | Warmest month | Coolest month | Annual mean RH | Peak monthly wet-bulb |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Dublin, Ireland | 46 m | 10.1 C | 15.1 C (July) | 5.6 C (February) | 87.6% | 13.4 C (July) |
| Sligo, Ireland | 31 m | 10.4 C | 14.9 C (August) | 6.5 C (February) | 84.7% | 13.2 C (August) |
| Bengaluru | 842 m | 23.7 C | 28.4 C (April) | 20.2 C (December) | 67.9% | 21.9 C (May) |
| Pune | 636 m | 23.9 C | 28.9 C (April) | 19.6 C (December) | 66.8% | 23.0 C (June) |
| Delhi | 206 m | 25.6 C | 35.9 C (June) | 13.6 C (January) | 45.6% | 26.5 C (July) |
| Kolkata | 7 m | 25.8 C | 31.5 C (May) | 17.3 C (January) | 73.9% | 27.1 C (June) |
| Hyderabad | 495 m | 26.1 C | 33.3 C (May) | 20.8 C (December) | 60.3% | 23.3 C (June) |
| Mumbai | 97 m | 26.8 C | 31.2 C (May) | 23.2 C (January) | 67.4% | 25.8 C (June) |
| Chennai | 49 m | 27.9 C | 31.5 C (May) | 24.1 C (January) | 72.4% | 26.1 C (May) |
The single most useful line in that table compares the extremes rather than the averages. Dublin's warmest month averages 15.1 degrees. Bengaluru's coolest month averages 20.2 degrees. So the coldest month in India's mildest large city is 5.1 degrees warmer than the hottest month in the breed's homeland, and Bengaluru is the best case. Against Chennai the annual means differ by 17.8 degrees.
NASA POWER returns a grid cell rather than a point, and in mountains the cell's mean elevation can miss the town beneath it by more than a kilometre, which moves temperature by roughly 6.5 degrees per 1,000 metres. Every place in this table is a plains or plateau city and every cell lands close to the real ground: Delhi's cell is about 10 metres below the city, Chennai's about 43 metres above, Mumbai's about 83 metres above, Bengaluru's about 78 metres below. Dublin's cell at 46 metres sits close to a city centre at roughly 20 metres. Dublin and Sligo returned different series and different elevations, so they are two genuinely separate cells rather than one queried twice.
Ireland is humid too, and that is not the same problem
Ireland is more humid than Chennai in relative terms and far safer, which is the point wet-bulb exists to make. Dublin averages 87.6 percent relative humidity against Chennai's 72.4 percent. Yet Dublin's peak monthly wet-bulb is 13.4 degrees and Chennai's is 26.1, a gap of 12.7 degrees, because wet-bulb combines heat and moisture into the single number that decides whether evaporative cooling can work. A dog pants to evaporate water from its airways, and evaporation slows as wet-bulb approaches body temperature.
Kolkata is the hardest Indian city on this measure and not the hottest. Its June peak wet-bulb of 27.1 degrees exceeds Delhi's 26.5 and Chennai's 26.1, even though Delhi's warmest month is 4.4 degrees hotter in dry-bulb terms. Delhi's 45.6 percent annual humidity buys it evaporative headroom that Kolkata does not have. So a buyer in Kolkata or Mumbai should plan around the monsoon months and a buyer in Delhi around May and June, and the two problems need different answers.
One Indian commercial page selling this breed's solid red relative states its ideal weather as 10 to 20 degrees Celsius. No Indian metro in the table has an annual mean inside that band, and the closest, Bengaluru at 23.7 degrees, is 3.7 degrees above its ceiling. The page prints the requirement and sells the dog on the same screen.
Managing the heat, city by city, and what Indian law already says about it
Manage this breed's heat load by moving exercise to the coolest hours rather than by cutting the coat, because the largest study of canine heat-related illness found that exertion, not sunshine, triggers three quarters of cases and that most exertional cases follow an ordinary walk.
Start with what the evidence actually says, because the popular advice has it backwards. Hall, Carter and O'Neill reviewed 905,543 UK dogs under primary veterinary care in 2016 and identified 1,259 heat-related illness events from 1,222 dogs. Of the 879 events with a recorded trigger, 652 were exertional, which is 74.2 percent, against 113 environmental at 12.9 percent and 46 from vehicular confinement at 5.2 percent. Then read one layer deeper. Of the 551 exertional events where the type of exercise was specified, 372, or 67.5 percent, followed walking, against 97 after high-intensity activity such as running or cycling and 76 after play.
Hall's breed variable included only breed types with at least five heat-illness cases or at least 5,000 dogs in the study population, and everything else went into grouped categories. The words Irish Setter, Irish Red and White Setter and setter appear zero times in either 2020 paper, while the Labrador control appears 17 and 19 times, so the absence is real rather than a failed search. Both breeds therefore sit inside the other purebred category, which carried an odds ratio of 1.28 against the Labrador Retriever with a confidence interval of 0.76 to 2.14 and a p-value of 0.358, meaning no significant difference. The one factor that transfers honestly is bodyweight: dogs at or above their breed and sex mean carried an odds ratio of 1.42, confidence interval 1.12 to 1.80.
The single most actionable number in the whole heat literature is 4.6 percent. Forty of the 879 triggered events happened while the dog was under the care of a veterinary clinic or a groomer. A long-coated dog in an Indian grooming salon, restrained, warm and possibly under a dryer, is inside that category. Ask any Indian groomer what the drying arrangement is before you book.
Indian law names this breed's exact situation
Second Schedule Part IV paragraph 21(1) of the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (Dog Breeding and Marketing) Rules 2017 bars keeping certain dogs in outdoor facilities without the attending veterinary practitioner's written approval. The three categories it names are dogs that are not accustomed to the temperatures prevalent in the area or region in question, dog breeds that cannot tolerate those temperatures, and the Rules give the example "such as long-haired breeds in high temperature locations", and sick, infirm, aged or young animals. A feathered Irish gundog in Chennai is the clause's own worked example.
This provision is a Second Schedule paragraph, not a Rule. The Rules themselves run only from Rule 1 to Rule 13, ending at No licence without registration, so any citation reading Rule 14 or above is wrong by construction. The string Rule 21 appears zero times in the gazette. The correct citation is Second Schedule Part IV paragraph 21(1), Outdoor housing facilities.
A working routine for an Indian household
- Walk before sunrise and after dark, and treat the two-hours-plus daily requirement the Kennel Club states as two hours split across the coolest ends of the day rather than one long block.
- Watch the wet-bulb, not the thermometer, in Kolkata and Mumbai from June onwards, because a 27.1 degree wet-bulb defeats panting at temperatures that look mild on a phone Stull R. Wet-bulb temperature from relative….
- Keep the dog lean, since bodyweight at or above the breed and sex mean was the transferable risk factor in the largest heat study, at an odds ratio of 1.42.
- Cool the dog before the walk, not only after it, because most exertional cases followed an ordinary walk rather than sport.
- Question the groomer's dryer, because being under the care of a clinic or groomer accounted for 40 of 879 triggered events.
- Do not house the dog outdoors in an Indian summer, which the 2017 Rules already restrict for long-haired breeds in high temperature locations.
Seasonality is worth planning around because it is sharp. In Hall's 2016 UK cohort, 40 percent of incident heat-illness cases, 158 of 395, fell in a single month, July. The Indian equivalents are April to June across the plains and the monsoon months on the coast, and the point of naming them is that the risk is concentrated rather than spread, so a household that changes its routine for eight weeks of the year removes most of the exposure.
Temperament: friendly, biddable, and emphatically not a guard dog
The Irish Red and White Setter is a happy, good-natured and affectionate gundog that the Kennel Club describes as biddable and highly intelligent, and no standard for the breed contains a guarding, protective or watchdog clause of any kind.
The three governing standards agree, which is unusual. The Kennel Club lists the characteristics as biddable, highly intelligent, good worker, and the temperament as happy, good natured and affectionate. FCI 330 describes the dog as aristocratic, keen and intelligent, displaying a kindly, friendly attitude behind which should be discernible determination, courage and high spirit, and adds that the breed is very friendly, dependable and an easily trained gundog. The AKC standard uses almost the same words.
Read the utilisation clause alongside the temperament clause, because together they describe a household. FCI 330 opens its utilisation section with the phrase "Most acceptable companion and friend in the homes and the fields" before stating that the breed is bred primarily for the field. A dog written up as a companion in the house and a worker outside it is a dog that expects to be indoors with its people and busy outside, and it will do badly at either half alone.
| Question | Irish Red and White Setter | Irish Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Size category | Large | Large |
| Town or country | Either | Either |
| Size of home | Large house | Large house |
| Size of garden | Large garden | Large garden |
| Exercise | More than 2 hours per day | More than 2 hours per day |
| Grooming | More than once a week | More than once a week |
| Sheds | Yes | Yes |
| Coat length | Medium | Medium |
| Vulnerable native breed | Yes | No |
| Breed Watch category | 1, no points of concern | 1, no points of concern |
The registry's own comparison returns a single difference across ten fields, and it is rarity rather than behaviour The Royal Kennel Club. Anyone choosing between the two Irish setters on temperament is choosing between two descriptions the Kennel Club fills in identically. The real differences are the health profiles, the price of finding one, and which skull you prefer.
Who should not buy this breed
- Anyone wanting protection. The standards describe a friendly, kindly dog, and nothing in any of the three mentions guarding American Kennel Club.
- Anyone in a small flat without a plan. The Kennel Club specifies a large house and a large garden, and more than two hours of daily exercise.
- Anyone who dislikes shedding. The registry answers Sheds with a flat Yes, on a medium-length coat with feathering.
- Anyone who wants a dog that settles alone all day. A breed written up as a companion in the home and a worker in the field is describing a dog that is with someone.
- Anyone whose household cannot change its schedule for the Indian summer, because the walking is not optional and the middle of the day is not available.
Training: an easily trained gundog, with recall as the one hard problem
Train an Irish Red and White Setter with reward-based work in short sessions and finish recall before anything else, because FCI 330 calls the breed an easily trained gundog while its working brief is to range widely and freeze on birds it finds a long way from you.
Socialise the puppy deliberately from eight weeks, because a ranging gundog that has never met a crowded Indian street will make its own decisions about one at eighteen months. The standard tells you both halves of the training problem in one paragraph. FCI 330 describes the dog as very friendly, dependable and easily trained, and separately requires determination, courage and high spirit behind the friendly attitude. The Kennel Club adds biddable and highly intelligent. Biddable plus high spirit is the profile of a dog that wants to work with you and will make its own decisions when you are two hundred metres away.
The working style is the reason recall matters more here than for a retriever. A setter finds game by ranging ahead of the handler and then setting, going rigid to indicate the birds' position, which is what the AKC standard means when it instructs judges to assess the dog chiefly from the working standpoint. The Kennel Club's own history of the breed explains that the red and white colour was preferred precisely because it made the dog easier to spot at a distance. A breed developed to be visible far away is a breed that goes far away.
| Window | What to train | What to expect |
|---|---|---|
| 8 to 16 weeks | Name, lead, crate, and daily handling of ears, feet and feathering | Fast learning and no reliability. Build grooming tolerance now, while it costs nothing |
| 4 to 8 months | Recall on a long line, a trade game for carried objects, settling on a mat | Attention comes and goes. Keep sessions to a few minutes and end them early |
| 8 to 18 months | Recall against real distraction, loose lead at adult strength, indoor settle | The hardest phase, when the dog is physically adult and mentally not |
| 18 months to 3 years | Scent work, gundog-style retrieves, off-lead freedom where it is legal and safe | Judgement arrives. Hip scoring becomes possible on an adult radiograph |
Three things that go wrong in Indian households specifically
Heat shortens every session, so plan for it rather than fighting it. Training in an Indian April at midday is not a discipline problem, it is a physiology problem, and exertional heat illness accounted for 74.2 percent of triggered heat-illness events with most following an ordinary walk. Train early, train short, and use indoor scent games when the wet-bulb is high.
Grooming tolerance is a training subject, not a grooming subject. A dog that has had its ears, feet and leg feathering handled daily from eight weeks will stand for a comb in a Chennai monsoon. A dog that has not will be sedated for it at three years old, and the AKC standard bars clipping the coat as a shortcut.
Start at eight weeks, because that is the earliest the law allows the puppy to leave. Rule 8(1)(a) of the 2017 Rules requires that pups less than eight weeks in age are not sold, Rule 8(1)(e) requires that each pup sold is micro-chipped with a complete record of treatment and vaccination, and Second Schedule Part III paragraph 8(9) records that vaccination can start at seven to eight weeks and is usually completed around eighteen weeks. The socialisation window and the vaccination course overlap, which is the practical tension every Indian puppy owner has to manage with their own vet rather than by keeping the puppy indoors until eighteen weeks.
Exercise: more than two hours a day, and the sources that disagree by a factor of four
The Kennel Club puts this breed's requirement at more than two hours per day, which is the highest band it publishes, and the Indian and North American pages that rank for the breed give figures from thirty minutes upward without saying where any of them come from.
| Source | Stated requirement | What the source is |
|---|---|---|
| Royal Kennel Club, Irish Red & White Setter | More than 2 hours per day | The breed's home registry, top band |
| Royal Kennel Club, Irish Setter | More than 2 hours per day | Same registry, same band |
| A Canadian breed page, first figure | At least two hours of physical activity | One of three figures on one page |
| The same page, second figure | A minimum of one hour each day | Same page, different section |
| The same page, third figure | 30 to 40 minutes each day | Same page again |
| An Indian commercial page, Irish Setter | 60 to 90 minutes | A page selling the solid red breed in India |
One page carrying three different figures is not a disagreement between sources, it is a page that was assembled rather than written. Thirty to forty minutes and at least two hours cannot both be the requirement for one breed, and a reader taking the low figure would be under-exercising a large gundog by a factor of four. Bonbeno takes the Kennel Club's more than two hours per day, because it is the registry that holds the breed's registrations and it publishes the same band for both Irish setters.
What two hours has to contain, and what it must not
Two hours of lead walking is not the same as two hours of exercise for a ranging gundog. The breed's working pattern is to quarter ground ahead of a handler and then hold a point, so the requirement is as much mental as physical, and the FCI standard's insistence that the breed be judged chiefly from the working standpoint is a statement about what the dog is for. Scent work, retrieves, and long-line freedom in a safe space do more for this dog per minute than pavement mileage.
Forced running, long distances and repetitive jumping before eighteen months load joints that have not finished. This breed's published hip record is the best of the four setters at 4.2 percent dysplastic on 624 evaluations, and hip conformation is heritable but expressed through growth, so a good pedigree is not a licence to run a nine-month-old on concrete. Hip scoring under the BVA/KC scheme is done on an adult radiograph for the same reason.
In India the constraint is not the dog's willingness, it is the clock. Across the seven metros in the climate table, the only hours reliably below the breed's comfort range are before sunrise and after dark for roughly four months of the year. A household that cannot commit to a 5.30 am walk from March to June should not take this breed, and that sentence is the most useful thing this page can tell an Indian buyer about exercise.
One number puts the requirement in context. The Kennel Club places both Irish setters in the same top exercise band it uses for the Gordon Setter, more than two hours per day, and the Gordon's page has already found Indian sources cutting that to one hour. The pattern across Indian commercial pages is consistent: the exercise figure gets smaller as the page gets closer to selling you the dog.
Grooming a feathered coat in Indian humidity, and the clause that bans the obvious shortcut
Groom an Irish Red and White Setter more than once a week with a comb through the feathering rather than a clipper over the body, because the breed's own AKC standard states that it is not to be shaved with clippers and that no trimming beyond a short named list is allowed.
The coat is not uniform, and that is what makes it manageable. FCI 330 describes long silky fine hair called feathering on the back of the fore and hind legs and on the outer ear flap, with a reasonable amount on the flank extending onto the chest and throat to form a fringe, while on all other parts of the body the hair is short, flat and free from curl. So the dog is short-coated over most of its surface and long-coated in six specific places, and those six places are the entire grooming job.
"The trimming of an Irish Red and White Setter should be kept to a minimum, maintaining a neat natural appearance and not to be shaved with clippers. Light trimming with thinning shears is allowed. Under the ears, tail, pasterns and hocks may be trimmed for neatness. Feet may be cleared of hair including the bottom and around the edges leaving hair between the toes. No other trimming is allowed including the whiskers which shall remain intact." That is the only breed standard among the four setters that legislates grooming in this much detail, and it exists because a clipped setter stops being one.
The evidence agrees with the standard, for reasons that have nothing to do with showing. Heat-related illness in dogs is overwhelmingly exertional rather than radiant, with 652 of 879 triggered events, 74.2 percent, following exertion and 372 of 551 specified exercise events following an ordinary walk. Clipping a dog changes what the sun does to it and changes nothing about what a walk in April does to it. A household that shaves the dog and keeps walking at 11 am has swapped a real intervention for a cosmetic one.
Ears, and the Indian number that should decide your routine
Drop ears carried 47.72 percent of 1,008 canine otitis externa cases in a Bengaluru veterinary teaching hospital series, against 24.21 percent for intermediate ears and 28.07 percent for prick ears, at p below 0.00001. This breed's ears are set level with the eyes, lie close to the head and carry feathering on the outer flap, which is the drop category.
The season matters as much as the ear. The same series recorded 41.87 percent of cases in the rainy season against 32.83 percent in winter and 25.30 percent in summer, and attributed the monsoon peak to increased humidity, temperature and moisture altering the microenvironment of the ear canal. So the practical rule is that ear checks go from weekly to daily in July and August, and that the dog's ears are dried after every bath and every swim rather than left to air dry.
The paper's breed table names thirteen categories and their counts sum to exactly 1,008, so the table is complete rather than a top-thirteen extract. Non-descript dogs account for 202 cases, Labrador Retrievers 185, Shih-Tzu 119, Pug 107, German Shepherd 104, Golden Retriever 83, Pomeranian 51, Cocker Spaniel 43, Dachshund 35, Bulldog 23, Siberian Husky 21, Rottweiler 19 and Lhasa Apso 16. Not one setter of any kind appears among 1,008 Indian otitis cases collected between December 2010 and November 2022. That is a twelve-year window at a major Indian veterinary college, and it is the cleanest single piece of evidence on this page that the breed is genuinely not here.
Ticks, and the clause in Indian law that names grooming
Feathering is where ticks live, and Indian law makes de-ticking part of grooming rather than a separate job. Second Schedule Part IV paragraph 27 of the 2017 Rules requires that grounds be kept free of accumulations and that weeds, grasses and bushes be controlled so as to control and prevent fleas and ticks, and states that regular de-ticking shall be practised at the time of grooming. The clause is written for breeding establishments, and the husbandry logic transfers to any household with a long-coated dog walking through Indian grass.
A practical weekly routine takes about twenty minutes. Brush the short body coat first, then comb the six feathered areas through to the skin with a wide-tooth comb, check both ear canals and the base of each ear flap, run fingers through the flank fringe and between the toes for ticks, and trim only the feet, under the ears, the tail, pasterns and hocks for neatness. Bathe when dirty rather than on a schedule, and dry the ears deliberately afterwards. The Kennel Club's own frequency guidance is more than once a week, and it says the breed sheds.
Health: the best hip record of the four setters, and the fourth worst thyroid record of 130 breeds
The Irish Red and White Setter's published health issues split cleanly in two, with joint results better than every other setter and better than the Labrador Retriever, and a thyroid result that ranks fourth worst among the 130 breeds OFA publishes.
| Register | Evaluations | Result | Rank |
|---|---|---|---|
| Hips | 624 | 95.5% normal, 4.2% dysplastic, 36.9% Excellent | 191 of 222 |
| Elbows | 277 | 99.3% normal, 0.7% abnormal | 153 of 168 |
| Thyroid | 379 | 79.4% normal, 11.9% compensative autoimmune thyroiditis | 4 of 130 |
| Eyes, summary line | 582 | 93.3% normal, 6.7% abnormal | 59 of 239 |
| CLAD, DNA | 205 | 100.0% normal, 0.0% carrier | 3 of 5 |
| Progressive retinal atrophy, DNA | 151 | 100.0% normal | 21 of 48 |
| Degenerative myelopathy, DNA | 56 | 98.2% normal, 1.8% carrier | 99 of 113 |
| Von Willebrand disease, DNA | 90 | 100.0% normal | 10 of 24 |
| Patella | no published row | below OFA's publication threshold | n/a |
| Cardiac | no published row | below OFA's publication threshold | n/a |
The hip row is the headline and it survives an arithmetic check. OFA prints 36.9 percent Excellent, 55.1 percent Good and 3.5 percent Fair, which sum to exactly the 95.5 percent normal it also prints, and 2.1 percent mild, 1.9 percent moderate and 0.2 percent severe, which sum to exactly the 4.2 percent dysplastic. That internal consistency matters, because OFA's own ALL BREEDS summary row on the same hip table fails the same test, printing 84.3 percent normal beside Excellent 14.6, Good 0.0 and Fair 0.0, components that cannot sum to the whole.
The elbow row prints 0.7 percent abnormal, while its own grade columns read Grade 1 at 0.4 percent, Grade 2 at 0.4 percent and Grade 3 at 0.0 percent, which sum to 0.8. On 277 evaluations that is a rounding artefact of one dog rather than a real discrepancy, but the habit of checking is what catches the discrepancies that are real. Bonbeno publishes the gap rather than smoothing it.
The thyroid row is the one a buyer should act on. OFA ranks the breed 4th of 130 published breeds, where rank 1 is the worst record, at 79.4 percent normal across 379 evaluations. The abnormal share is dominated by compensative autoimmune thyroiditis at 11.9 percent, with autoimmune thyroiditis at 0.8 percent, idiopathic hypothyroidism at 0.0 percent and 7.9 percent equivocal, and those five figures sum to exactly 100.0. The three worst breeds above it include the English Setter at rank 1, so this is a setter problem rather than a red-and-white problem, and the Gordon Setter at rank 80 is the exception rather than the rule.
Indian law already names the test. Second Schedule Part III paragraph 8(10) of the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (Dog Breeding and Marketing) Rules 2017 requires that dogs shall have been tested for genetic defects, including hip dysplasia, progressive retinal atrophy, night blindness, hypothyroidism, entropion, ectropion and several dentition faults. Four of those named defects appear in this breed's own OFA record, so an Indian breeder of the breed would be under a statutory testing duty that maps almost exactly onto the registry's findings.
What the Kennel Club asks breeders to do, and what it puts first
The Kennel Club lists genetic diversity as the breed's only Good Practice item, ahead of any disease. Its recommended set runs Good Practice, prioritising genetic diversity, then Best Practice, a DNA test for canine leukocyte adhesion deficiency, eye testing under the BVA/KC/ISDS Eye Scheme and hip testing under the BVA/KC Hip Dysplasia Scheme. Notice what is not on the list. There is no elbow scheme, which is consistent with a 0.7 percent abnormal rate, and no rcd4 DNA test, which is consistent with the breed having no row at all in OFA's rcd4 register, a variant first described in Gordon and Irish Setters and estimated at an allele frequency of 0.26 in the Irish Setter Orthopedic Foundation for Animals The Royal Kennel Club. The Irish Setter by contrast carries three DNA tests and an elbow scheme, and the English Setter carries a DNA test for NCL8 plus hip, elbow and a BAER hearing scheme The Royal Kennel Club.
Putting genetic diversity first is not boilerplate for a breed registering 22 puppies in a year. A population that small has a mathematical problem no health test can solve, and it is the reason the Kennel Club opened the register to carrier dogs rather than excluding them, which the CLAD section below explains.
CLAD: the disease that proves the two Irish setters are one population, and the test that beat it
Canine leucocyte adhesion deficiency is a lethal recessive immune disease that entered the Irish Red and White Setter from the Irish Setter, and the published DNA registers now show a carrier rate of zero in both the UK and the United States after roughly two decades of testing.
The disease is fatal and it presents early. CLAD results from a defective beta-2 subunit of the leukocyte adhesion proteins, and affected dogs show recurrent bacterial infections alongside a marked leukocytosis. The causative mutation in European Irish Setters is a missense change at base pair 107 of the ITGB2 gene, replacing cysteine with serine at amino acid 36, written Cys36Ser. The disease was first described in the mid-1980s in a crossbred Irish Setter in the United States, and that original dog was later genotyped and shown to carry the same mutation as the European dogs, which told the authors the allele had been in the breed for more than two decades before anyone named it.
Two papers in 2002 put the mutation in the red and white breed
| Study and population | Dogs tested | Carriers | Carrier rate |
|---|---|---|---|
| Debenham 2002, UK Irish red and white setters | 76 | 6 | 7.9% |
| Foureman 2002, US Irish Red and White Setters | 54 | 7 | 13% |
| Pfeiffer and Brenig 2005, Irish red setters in Germany | 289 | not stated | 11% |
| Kennel Club published DNA report, Irish Red & White Setter | 72 results | 0 | 0.0% |
| Kennel Club published DNA report, Irish Setter | 317 results | 7 | 2.2% |
| OFA register, Irish Red & White Setter | 205 | 0 | 0.0% |
| OFA register, Irish Setter | 570 | 0 | 0.0% |
A third paper measured the same mutation in the solid red breed, finding a CLAD carrier frequency of 11 percent among 289 Irish red setters sequenced in Germany, which is the scale of the problem the red and white breed inherited. Debenham and colleagues at the Animal Health Trust tested 76 samples and found six carriers, all from a lineage in which sporadic deaths consistent with the disease had been recorded, and described the result as the first demonstration that the CLAD mutation exists outside the Irish setter population. In the same year Foureman, Whiteley and Giger found seven carriers among 54 US dogs, 13 percent, five of them directly related to a single United Kingdom sire, which they described as demonstrating the importation of an allele from another continent.
The recovery is the part worth publishing, because it is rare to be able to show a screening programme working. Bonbeno counted every result row in the Kennel Club's own published DNA test report for this breed. The report carries 72 results and every single one reads Clear, with zero carriers and zero affected dogs. OFA's independent register agrees, reporting 205 evaluations at 100.0 percent normal. Two registers on two continents, roughly 277 dogs between them, and no carrier in either.
Every result token in the Kennel Club's PDF sits at the end of its own line, next to a dog's registered name, so the rows can be counted exactly rather than estimated. The Irish Red & White Setter CLAD report yields 72 Clear, 0 Carrier and 0 Affected. The Irish Setter's CLAD report yields 310 Clear and 7 Carrier across 317 rows. The same method applied to the Irish Setter's PRA rcd1 report yields 418 rows, all Clear.
Why the registry opened its books to carriers rather than banning them
Excluding carriers from a breed that registered 22 puppies last year would shrink the gene pool faster than the disease would. With effect from 6 January 2025 the Kennel Club requires imported Irish Red and White Setters, and litters by overseas sires, to be proven clear or carriers of CLAD, or hereditarily clear, before it will register them. Identified carriers may still be bred from, provided they are mated only to a hereditarily clear or DNA-tested clear dog of the breed. That is the textbook handling of a recessive in a small population, because a carrier bred to a clear dog produces no affected puppies while keeping the carrier's other genes in circulation, and it is why the registry lists genetic diversity as its first recommendation for the breed.
For an Indian buyer the practical instruction is short. Ask for the CLAD certificate and the issuing laboratory on any dog offered as this breed, whatever country it came from, and treat a carrier result as acceptable rather than disqualifying if the mate is clear. Indian law reinforces the habit from a different direction, since Second Schedule Part III paragraph 8(10) of the 2017 Rules requires breeding dogs to have been tested for named genetic defects.
The eye register contradicts itself on the same 582 dogs, so here are both numbers
OFA's eye summary for the Irish Red and White Setter reports 93.3 percent normal while its own detail rows report 76.8 percent normal, on an identical denominator of 582 examinations, and neither figure should be quoted as the breed's eye rate.
Both numbers come off the same page of the same register on the same day. The summary line reads 582 evaluations, 93.3 percent normal, 6.7 percent abnormal, ranking the breed 59th of 239. The detail table, which names actual diagnoses, reports 447 dogs normal out of 582 tested, which divides to 76.8 percent. The gap is 16.5 percentage points and the denominator is the same in both, so it cannot be explained by different populations.
| Finding | Dogs | Percent |
|---|---|---|
| Normal | 447 | 76.8 |
| Other, suspected as not inherited | 51 | 8.8 |
| Cataract, significance unknown | 37 | 6.4 |
| Punctate cataract, anterior cortex | 18 | 3.1 |
| Incipient cataract, posterior cortex | 13 | 2.2 |
| Punctate cataract, capsular | 11 | 1.9 |
| Incipient cataract, anterior cortex | 10 | 1.7 |
| Distichiasis | 9 | 1.5 |
| Vitreous degeneration, syneresis | 6 | 1.0 |
| Retinal atrophy, generalized | 2 | 0.3 |
| Entropion | 1 | 0.2 |
The arithmetic explains part of the gap and not all of it. 582 minus 447 leaves 135 dogs with at least one non-normal finding, which is 23.2 percent, while the summary line's 6.7 percent abnormal implies about 39 dogs. Across all 34 non-normal diagnosis rows the counts sum to 214 findings, which is more than 135 dogs, so some dogs carry more than one finding and the rows cannot simply be added. What cannot be reconciled is 39 against 135.
The same contradiction appears on the Irish Setter, where the summary reports 95.8 percent normal of 1,109 and the detail rows report 746 normal of 1,109, which is 67.3 percent, a 28.5 point gap on an identical denominator. It appears on the Gordon Setter at 95.3 percent against 73.6 percent. Any page quoting a single OFA eye percentage for any of these breeds has picked one of two irreconcilable numbers without saying so. Bonbeno publishes both and quotes neither as the rate.
Read the diagnoses rather than the headline, because they are what a vet will look for
Cataract of one description or another dominates the non-normal findings. Adding the cataract rows gives 37 of significance unknown plus 18 punctate anterior cortex, 13 incipient posterior cortex, 11 punctate capsular and 10 incipient anterior cortex, which is 89 cataract findings across 582 examinations before the smaller rows are counted. Most are described as incipient or punctate, which are early or pinpoint changes rather than vision-limiting disease, and the register's own wording is significance unknown for the largest single row.
Two findings matter more than their size suggests. Generalized retinal atrophy appears in 2 dogs, 0.3 percent, and the breed's DNA register for progressive retinal atrophy reports 151 dogs at 100.0 percent normal with no carriers. Distichiasis, extra eyelashes growing from the meibomian glands, appears in 9 dogs at 1.5 percent, against 4.4 percent in the Irish Setter and 1.9 percent in the Gordon Setter Orthopedic Foundation for Animals. Entropion appears once, in a breed where Indian law names entropion as a genetic defect a breeding dog must have been tested for.
So the honest summary is a range, not a number. Somewhere between 6.7 and 23.2 percent of examined Irish Red and White Setters carry a recorded eye finding, most of them early lens opacities of unknown significance, and the eye scheme the Kennel Club recommends for the breed is the BVA/KC/ISDS Eye Scheme rather than a DNA test.
Lifespan: why this page publishes no breed-specific median, and what it publishes instead
No study has published a lifespan median for the Irish Red and White Setter on its own, because the largest UK longevity dataset folded the breed into the Irish Setter, and Bonbeno will not print a merged figure under a single breed's name.
The relevant paper is McMillan and colleagues, 2024, covering 155 recognised purebreds. Its supplementary Table S5 lists every breed included in the survival analysis together with a phylogeny reclassification column, defined in the table's own caption as the KC and FCI breeds included in each Breed category. The row for Irish Setter carries Irish Red & White Setter in that column. The English Setter and Gordon Setter rows carry NA, meaning they were analysed as themselves.
So the widely quoted Irish Setter figure is a merged figure. Table S3 gives that combined group a median survival of 12.9 years with a 95 percent confidence interval of 12.6 to 13.1, on 547 recorded deaths, and a hazard ratio of 0.74 against crossbred dogs at p below 0.001. That number describes both Irish setters together and nobody says so, which is exactly why this page will not reprint it as the Irish Red and White Setter's lifespan.
For the same group, Table S3 gives 1,487 dogs still alive while Table S6 gives 952 alive and 1,499 total McMillan et al. 2024. The death count is identical in both at 547, and 952 plus 547 is 1,499, so Table S6 is internally consistent and Table S3's alive figure does not reconcile with it. Where two tables in one paper disagree, quote the count they agree on. The paper also carries an Author Correction, Scientific Reports 14:8772 of 16 April 2024, which changes only the Miniature Dachshund median in a figure legend, from 12.2 to 14.0 years, and touches nothing used here.
| Source | Figure | What it is |
|---|---|---|
| McMillan et al. 2024 | no separate figure | The breed was folded into the Irish Setter group |
| Teng et al. 2022 | no separate figure | Breed life tables were built for 18 breeds; no setter is among them |
| Teng et al. 2022, Gundog group | 11.67 years (11.59 to 11.76) | Life expectancy at age 0 for 5,354 UK gundogs, which does include this breed's group |
| Royal Kennel Club breed page | Over 10 years | A registry category, not a measurement |
| American Kennel Club breed page | 11 to 15 years | A registry page figure with no stated basis |
The gundog group figure is the honest transferable one. Teng and colleagues built life tables from 30,563 UK dogs that died between 1 January 2016 and 31 July 2020, and reported life expectancy at age 0 of 11.23 years across the whole population and 11.67 years for the Gundog group specifically, on 5,354 gundogs. Their breed-level tables covered 18 breeds accounting for 50.6 percent of the population, and no setter of any kind is among them. A group figure that genuinely includes the breed beats a breed figure that was never measured.
Read the two registry figures as what they are. The Kennel Club's Over 10 years is a bucket it applies across many breeds, and the AKC's 11 to 15 years is a page figure rather than a standard. Neither is a study, neither carries a confidence interval, and neither should be quoted as though it were McMillan or Teng.
Bloat: a deep-chested breed that no bloat study has ever included
The Irish Red and White Setter has the deep chest that gastric dilatation-volvulus tracks, and no published study of the condition has included the breed, so this page gives the general risk factors and refuses to borrow another breed's odds ratio.
The anatomical risk is real and it comes from the standard. FCI 330 requires a deep chest with well sprung ribs, and the Kennel Club standard says the same The Royal Kennel Club breed standard. Depth of chest relative to width is the conformational feature most consistently associated with gastric dilatation-volvulus in large breeds, which is why the condition is a large deep-chested problem rather than a big-dog problem.
Glickman and colleagues' prospective cohort of 1,914 dogs covered eleven named breeds: Akita, Bloodhound, Collie, Great Dane, Irish Setter, Irish Wolfhound, Newfoundland, Rottweiler, Saint Bernard, Standard Poodle and Weimaraner. The Irish Red and White Setter is not among them. Evans and Adams' UK survey named the breeds at greatest risk of GDV morbidity as the Grand Bleu de Gascogne, bloodhound, otterhound, Irish setter and Weimaraner, and at greatest risk of GDV mortality as the bloodhound, Grand Bleu de Gascogne, German longhaired pointer and Neapolitan mastiff. Again, not this breed. So no breed-specific bloat figure exists for the Irish Red and White Setter, and this page prints none.
What the studies do establish transfers on anatomy rather than on breed. Across Glickman's eleven-breed cohort the incidence of GDV was 23 cases per 1,000 dog-years at risk for the seven large breeds of 23 to 45 kg and 26 for the four giant breeds above 45 kg, and cumulative incidence across all breeds was 5.7 percent. Of the 105 dogs that developed GDV, 30 died, a case fatality of 28.6 percent. Incidence rose with increasing age, and the only breed-specific characteristic significantly associated with reduced incidence was an owner-perceived personality trait of happiness.
In the UK, Evans and Adams found GDV was the recorded cause of death for 389 dogs, 2.5 percent of all deaths reported in a survey covering 15,881 dogs of 165 breeds that had died in the previous ten years, with a median age at death of 7.92 years. Among live dogs there were 253 episodes in 238 animals, with a median age at first diagnosis of five years.
What an Indian owner should actually do
- Split the daily ration into two or three meals rather than one, so less volume sits in a deep chest at any moment.
- Feed from the floor, because a raised bowl was among the factors significantly associated with increased risk in Glickman's non-dietary risk factor study of 1,637 large and giant breed dogs.
- Slow a fast eater with a maze bowl, because speed of eating was significantly associated with increased risk in the same study.
- Know the signs before you need them, which are a swollen tight abdomen, unproductive retching, restlessness, drooling and collapse.
- Find your nearest twenty-four-hour surgical facility now, and save the number, because GDV is measured in hours and Indian metros vary enormously in overnight surgical cover.
A dog with a distended abdomen that is retching without producing anything needs a veterinary surgeon immediately, not in the morning. Case fatality in a prospective cohort was 28.6 percent even in a US population with ready surgical access. Nothing on this page substitutes for that phone call.
Feeding: a large-breed diet, several small meals, and a body condition score you check monthly
Feed an Irish Red and White Setter a complete large-breed diet split across two or three meals a day and score its body condition monthly on a nine-point chart, because bodyweight at or above the breed and sex mean is the one heat risk factor that transfers to this breed from the largest study available.
Lean is the whole instruction, and it is unusually well evidenced for this breed's situation. Hall and colleagues found that dogs at or above their breed and sex mean bodyweight carried an odds ratio of 1.42 for heat-related illness, with a confidence interval of 1.12 to 1.80. That factor is about weight rather than breed, so it applies to this dog even though the breed itself was not modelled. In an Indian climate a lean dog has more thermal margin than a heavy one, and that margin is free.
Score, do not guess. The WSAVA Global Nutrition Committee publishes a nine-point body condition chart designed to be used by an owner with hands rather than by eye, and a monthly check catches drift long before a scale does. On a large feathered dog the eye is actively misleading, because feathering hides the waist.
| Rule | Reason | Source |
|---|---|---|
| Split the ration into two or three meals | Less volume in a deep chest at any one time | Standard requires a deep chest with well sprung ribs |
| Feed from the floor, never a raised bowl | A raised bowl was significantly associated with increased GDV risk | Glickman, 1,637 large and giant breed dogs |
| Slow a fast eater | Faster speed of eating was significantly associated with increased risk | Glickman, same cohort |
| Use a large-breed growth diet to about 18 months | Controlled growth protects developing joints | Hip scoring is done on an adult radiograph for the same reason |
| Score body condition monthly on 9 points | Lean bodyweight is the transferable heat risk factor | WSAVA chart; Hall bodyweight odds ratio 1.42 |
| Do not free-feed in the Indian hot season | Appetite falls in heat and a topped-up bowl hides it | Practical, from the climate figures on this page |
What is actually available in India, and what a figure would cost you
Large-breed complete diets are widely sold in Indian metros and no breed-specific Indian feeding figure exists for this breed, because no Indian population of the breed exists to have generated one. What does exist is the general arithmetic: a dog of 25 to 34 kg on a complete dry diet is a large-breed feeding problem, and the daily quantity comes off the manufacturer's chart for the dog's adult weight and activity, adjusted by monthly body condition scoring rather than by the number on the bag.
Beware the Indian pages that print a calorie figure for this shape of dog. One Indian commercial page for the solid red Irish Setter states 1,500 kcal for puppies and 1,600 kcal for adults, and on the same page tells the reader that the breed needs a balanced diet "to support their small size and thick coat" while its own specification panel classifies the breed as Large. A page that cannot keep its own size category straight across two paragraphs is not a source for a calorie target. Take the figure from the food manufacturer's own chart and from your vet.
Two Indian-specific adjustments are worth making. Water intake rises sharply in Indian summers and a dog on dry food alone can fall behind, so a second water station and wet food or soaked kibble in April to June is a cheap intervention. And meal timing should move away from the walk, because feeding immediately before or after exertion combines the two things a deep-chested dog does not want at once.
The first year, month by month, with the Indian legal dates written in
An Irish Red and White Setter puppy may lawfully leave its breeder at eight weeks in India, must be micro-chipped when sold, and cannot be screened for hips until it is an adult, so the first year is about socialisation, grooming tolerance and controlled growth rather than about anything a certificate can prove.
| Age | What happens | What you do |
|---|---|---|
| 8 weeks | The earliest a pup may lawfully be sold in India, under Rule 8(1)(a) | Collect the microchip record, the vaccination record and the parents' CLAD and hip papers |
| 8 to 12 weeks | Socialisation window, and the cheapest time to build handling tolerance | Comb ears, feet and leg feathering daily so grooming is never a fight later |
| 7 to 18 weeks | Vaccination usually starts at seven to eight weeks and completes around eighteen | Plan safe socialisation with your vet rather than waiting indoors until week eighteen |
| 4 to 6 months | Rapid growth, coordination lagging behind size | Weigh food, score body condition monthly, and do no forced running |
| 6 months | Indian law bars sale of a dog over six months without sterilisation, other than to a licensed breeder | Discuss timing with your vet for a large slow-maturing breed |
| 6 to 12 months | Feathering starts to come in properly; adolescence begins | Long-line recall every session, against real distraction |
| 12 to 18 months | Physically adult, mentally not. The hardest phase | Short sessions, no correction-based training, keep the walking early and late |
| 18 months onward | Adult judgement arrives; hip radiographs become meaningful | Screen hips and eyes before any breeding decision, under the BVA/KC schemes |
Three provisions of the 2017 Rules govern the transaction and every Indian buyer should know all three. Rule 8(1)(a) requires that pups less than eight weeks in age are not sold. Rule 8(1)(b) requires that dogs over six months in age are not sold without first being sterilised, unless the sale is to another licensed breeder. Rule 8(1)(e) requires that each pup sold is micro-chipped, with a complete record of treatment and vaccination maintained. A seller who cannot produce a microchip number is failing a statutory condition of sale, not merely being disorganised.
Second Schedule Part III paragraph 8(9) of the 2017 Rules records that vaccination can start at the age of seven to eight weeks and is usually completed at about eighteen weeks. The socialisation window closes across roughly the same period. Keeping a puppy indoors until eighteen weeks produces a fully vaccinated dog with no social experience, which for a large ranging gundog is the more expensive failure. Work out a middle course with your own veterinarian rather than from a page.
What cannot be settled in year one, and why patience saves money
Hip and elbow conformation cannot be scored on a puppy. Both the BVA/KC schemes the Kennel Club recommends for this breed and OFA's registers are built on adult radiographs, which is why a breeder can show you the parents' scores and nobody can show you the puppy's. On a breed whose published dysplastic rate is 4.2 percent across 624 evaluations that is reassuring rather than alarming, but the reassurance comes from the pedigree, not from the puppy.
Eye findings are largely late. The dominant OFA eye findings for this breed are incipient and punctate lens opacities, which are age-related changes rather than puppy findings, and the BVA/KC/ISDS Eye Scheme exists to be repeated through a dog's life rather than done once. The one thing that can be settled before the puppy is born is CLAD, because it is a DNA test on the parents, and the Kennel Club has made it a registration condition for imported dogs of this breed since 6 January 2025.
Irish Red and White Setter against the three setters buyers confuse it with
Compare the Irish Red and White Setter against the other three setters on published register data and it wins the joints comfortably, loses the thyroid table badly, and is roughly twenty times rarer than the solid red Irish Setter in the only registry that publishes annual numbers for all four.
Four setter breeds sit in the same FCI subsection, Group 7 Section 2 Subsection Setter, and an Indian buyer searching for any one of them is shown all four. Two of them are Irish. The table below puts every published figure side by side, and every cell comes from the register named in the row, not from a breed-comparison website.
| Measure | Irish Red & White | Irish Setter | English Setter | Gordon Setter |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| FCI standard number | 330 | 120 | 2 | 6 |
| FCI definitive recognition | 6 Jun 1989 | 22 Dec 1954 | 6 Mar 1963 | 28 May 1963 |
| UK registrations, 2025 | 22 | 480 | 176 | 93 |
| UK registrations, 2021 peak | 46 | 935 | 293 | 244 |
| UK vulnerable native breed? | Yes | No | Yes | Yes |
| OFA hip evaluations | 624 | 13,508 | 13,431 | 7,198 |
| OFA hips, dysplastic | 4.2% | 11.7% | 15.3% | 18.7% |
| OFA hips, excellent | 36.9% | 10.4% | 12.1% | 10.6% |
| OFA elbows, abnormal | 0.7% of 277 | 2.8% of 1,387 | 14.8% of 4,950 | 14.2% of 1,594 |
| OFA thyroid, normal | 79.4% of 379 | 82.2% of 2,314 | 60.4% of 2,265 | 90.5% of 262 |
| OFA thyroid rank | 4 of 130 | 14 of 130 | 1 of 130 | 80 of 130 |
| Kennel Club DNA tests listed | CLAD | CLAD, rcd1, rcd4 | NCL8 | rcd4, CLAD |
| Findable in India | No | No verified litter | One directory listing | No |
Read the hip row first, because it is the single most surprising number on this page. Across 624 evaluations the Irish Red and White Setter records 4.2 percent dysplastic and 36.9 percent Excellent hips. The Labrador Retriever, the breed Indian buyers treat as the safe large-dog default, records 11.3 percent dysplastic and 21.7 percent Excellent across 324,780 evaluations. On a sample two hundred times smaller the rarer breed is scoring better, and the OFA all-breeds line sits at 14.2 percent dysplastic.
624 hip evaluations is a real number but it is small, and OFA screening is voluntary, so owners who suspect a problem are less likely to submit. A 4.2 percent figure on 624 dogs is not the same evidence as an 11.3 percent figure on 324,780. Publish the sample size beside the percentage and treat the gap as encouraging rather than settled.
The thyroid row runs the other way and nobody mentions it. The Irish Red and White Setter ranks 4th of the 130 breeds in OFA's thyroid table, where rank 1 is worst, with 79.4 percent normal across 379 evaluations, 11.9 percent compensative autoimmune thyroiditis and 7.9 percent equivocal. The English Setter is rank 1 at 60.4 percent normal and the Gordon Setter is a comfortable rank 80 at 90.5 percent. So the two Irish setters and the English Setter cluster at the bad end of the thyroid table while the Scottish one does not, and Indian law already names hypothyroidism as a genetic defect a breeding dog must have been tested for.
On rarity the comparison is not close. The Royal Kennel Club registered 22 Irish Red and White Setters in 2025 against 480 Irish Setters, 176 English Setters and 93 Gordon Setters. That is roughly one Irish Red and White for every 22 Irish Setters, in the breed's nearest large registry. In the same year the Labrador Retriever took 29,919 registrations, so the Labrador outnumbers this breed 1,360 to one.
How to tell the two Irish setters apart at a glance
Three physical features separate the two Irish setters, and all three come from the standards rather than from opinion. Colour is the obvious one and the least reliable, because an Irish Setter is allowed white on chest, throat, chin or toes and a small star or blaze on the face. The skull is the reliable one. The Irish Setter standard requires an oval skull with a well-defined occipital protuberance; the Irish Red and White standard requires a domed skull without one, and says so by naming the other breed. Build is the third. The AKC gives the Irish Setter an ideal 27 inches and about 70 pounds for a dog, which is half an inch above the FCI's own ceiling of 26.5 inches for the breed, while its standard for the red and white gives 24.5 to 26 inches and no weight at all American Kennel Club FCI-Standard N. 120. The Irish Setter must be racy; the Irish Red and White must be athletic rather than racy, strong and powerful without lumber American Kennel Club.
Eight mistakes Indian buyers make with this breed
The commonest mistake an Indian buyer makes with an Irish Red and White Setter is believing they have found one, because no verified Indian litter of the breed exists and the animal being offered is almost always something else.
- Accepting a red-and-white dog as the breed. Colour alone proves nothing. An English Setter is white with flecking, a Brittany is orange and white, and an Irish Setter is allowed white on chest, throat, chin and toes plus a facial blaze. The breed's own marker is clear islands of solid red on a pearl-white base, with roaning and mottling elsewhere an eliminating fault under FCI 330.
- Treating it as a colour variety of the Irish Setter. These are two FCI standards with two numbers, two recognition dates thirty-four years apart and two separate registration series. Anyone describing the red and white as a variety has the history backwards, because the FCI standard says the red and white is the older of the two and that selective breeding evolved the solid red out of it.
- Paying a rupee price quoted for the breed. No Indian listing, breeder directory entry or registry record for the breed could be verified. Any figure you are shown was written for a different animal.
- Skipping the CLAD paperwork on an imported dog. The Kennel Club made a clear or carrier CLAD result a condition of registration for imported Irish Red and White Setters and for litters by overseas sires with effect from 6 January 2025. A dog imported into India carries no such gate, so the certificate is the buyer's job.
- Clippering the coat for the heat. The AKC standard for the breed states that trimming should be kept to a minimum and that the dog is not to be shaved with clippers. A clipped double-textured coat loses its insulating and reflective layer, and heat-related illness in dogs is overwhelmingly exertional rather than radiant, so the fix is a change of walk timing rather than a change of coat.
- Ignoring the ears through the monsoon. Drop ears carried 47.72 percent of 1,008 canine otitis externa cases in a Bengaluru teaching hospital series, against 28.07 percent for prick ears, and the rainy season carried 41.87 percent of cases against 25.30 percent in summer. This breed has a low drop ear with feathering on the outer flap.
- Buying it as a guard dog. The standard describes a happy, good natured and affectionate dog and the working brief is finding and pointing game birds, not deterring anyone.
- Assuming a rare breed is a healthy breed. The hip and elbow figures are excellent, the thyroid figure is the fourth worst of 130 published breeds, and a population registering 22 puppies a year in its nearest large registry has a genetic diversity problem the Kennel Club lists first among its recommended tests The Royal Kennel Club.
Neither the FCI, Kennel Club nor AKC standard for this breed describes a docked tail or cropped ears, so a natural dog already meets every standard. Indian law forbids both procedures anyway, under Second Schedule Part II paragraph 6(8) of the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (Dog Breeding and Marketing) Rules 2017, which reads that there shall be no tail docking, ear cropping, de-barking, de-clawing, branding, dyeing or any other kind of mutilation and that any change of appearance by artificial means is strictly forbidden. A seller offering a docked setter is selling you a problem, not a breed feature.
Adoption, and what to do instead when the breed is not here
Adopt rather than import if you want an Irish Red and White Setter in India, because the lawful supply route for the breed is a personal pet import under baggage rules and nothing else, and the animals that actually need homes in Indian cities are gundog crosses with the same exercise and coat needs.
Indian law closes the commercial route completely. Dogs sit at ITC(HS) 01061900 as a Restricted import, and Policy Condition 7 of the DGFT's trade notice allows import only for a pet dog with a valid pet book in the importer's own name, for research organisations with a CPCSEA recommendation, or for Defence and Police internal security. Policy Condition 8 adds that import of commercial dogs for breeding or any other commercial activity is not permitted, and the notice states plainly that applications for trading or breeding purposes shall be duly rejected. Import of pet animals is allowed only through the airports and seaports of Delhi, Mumbai, Chennai, Hyderabad, Bengaluru and Kolkata and, since October 2024, Kochi airport Department of Animal Husbandry….
So no breeding population can lawfully form. A person transferring residence to India after two years of continuous stay abroad may bring up to two pets as passenger baggage without a DGFT authorisation. That is one household bringing its own dog, and it is not a supply chain. Combine it with 22 UK registrations in 2025 and the arithmetic is unforgiving: the entire annual output of the breed's nearest large registry would not stock a single Indian pet shop.
Five checks before you accept any dog offered as this breed
- Ask for the export pedigree and the registering body's name, then check that body against the FCI members list, where India is a full member represented by the Kennel Club of India in Chennai.
- Ask for the CLAD DNA certificate and the laboratory that issued it, because the Kennel Club requires a clear or carrier result to register an imported dog of this breed.
- Ask for the hip score and the scheme it was issued under, because hip screening is one of only three tests the Kennel Club lists for the breed.
- Ask to see the dam, and read the skull, because a domed skull without an occipital protuberance is what separates this breed from the solid red.
- Ask for the date of birth and the microchip record, because Indian law requires that pups under eight weeks are not sold and that each pup sold is micro-chipped, under Rule 8(1)(a) and Rule 8(1)(e) of the 2017 Rules.
What adoption actually looks like for this shape of dog in India
No breed-specific rescue exists for the Irish Red and White Setter in India, and pretending otherwise would waste your time. What does exist in every Indian metro is a supply of medium to large, active, drop-eared, feathered gundog crosses surrendered for exactly the reason this breed would be surrendered, which is that a household underestimated more than two hours of daily exercise. Contact your city's municipal shelter and the established rescues, describe the dog by requirement rather than by breed, and ask for an adult rather than a puppy so the energy level is already visible.
Adopting an adult removes the two biggest unknowns. Hip and elbow conformation can be assessed in an adult and cannot be predicted in an eight-week puppy, and OFA's schemes are built on adult radiographs for that reason. Temperament is likewise observable. If you want the specific look, accept that you are choosing a dog with the same coat, ear and exercise profile rather than the registered breed, and read the Gordon Setter and English Setter pages for how the same argument plays out in the two other vulnerable setters.
If you live in an Indian metro, want a large feathered gundog and can genuinely give it two hours a day plus a cool room through April to June, adopt a local gundog cross and spend the money you saved on ear care, a good tick preventive and a body-condition-scored diet. If you specifically need this breed and are moving to India from abroad, bring your own dog under the baggage route with its CLAD certificate and hip score, and start the import authorisation paperwork at least two months before you travel, as the DGFT itself advises.
Irish Red and White Setter questions, answered from the registers
How much does an Irish Setter cost in India?
Two Indian pages give bands that disagree by two to four times, and neither is verifiable. One quotes ₹40,000 to ₹80,000 and another INR 90,000 to INR 3,00,000 or more, on the same day. Both figures describe the solid red Irish Setter, not the Irish Red and White Setter, for which no Indian price exists at all.
What is an Irish Setter?
An Irish Setter is a solid rich chestnut Irish gundog, FCI standard number 120, recognised on a definitive basis by the FCI on 22 December 1954. Its own standard states that it was derived from the Irish Red and White Setter and an unknown solid red coloured dog, so it is the younger of Ireland's two setter breeds.
Are Irish Setters good family pets?
Both Irish setters are described by their registries as affectionate family gundogs rather than guard dogs, and neither standard contains any guarding clause. The Kennel Club places both in a large house with a large garden and requires more than two hours of exercise a day, so the limiting factor is the household's time rather than the dog's temperament.
Are Irish Setters aggressive?
No. Aggressive or overly shy dogs are a disqualifying fault in both the FCI standard for the Irish Red Setter and the FCI standard for the Irish Red and White Setter, meaning such a dog cannot be awarded in the ring. The published temperament words are keen, intelligent, affectionate, loyal, happy and good natured.
Is the Irish Red and White Setter just a colour variety of the Irish Setter?
No. They are two separate FCI standards with two numbers, 330 and 120, two separate definitive recognition dates 34 years apart, and two separate registration series at the Kennel Club. The FCI standard for the red and white breed states that it is the older of the two and that selective breeding evolved the solid red colour out of it.
Which Irish setter came first?
The Irish Red and White Setter came first, according to both breeds' own governing standards. FCI 330 says the red and white is the older of the two, and FCI 120 says the Irish Red Setter is derived from the Irish Red and White Setter and an unknown solid red coloured dog. The Kennel Club opens its page by calling the red and white the original Irish Setter.
How rare is the Irish Red and White Setter?
The Royal Kennel Club registered 22 Irish Red and White Setters in 2025, against 93 Gordon Setters, 176 English Setters and 480 Irish Setters, and it is on the vulnerable native breeds list. The breed's American parent club directory lists 26 kennels, 24 across twelve United States and two in Ontario, and none anywhere in Asia.
Can an Irish Red and White Setter live in India?
It can be kept in India with real adjustments, and no Indian city resembles its homeland. Dublin's warmest month averages 15.1 degrees Celsius while Bengaluru's coolest month averages 20.2 degrees, so India's mildest large city is warmer year round than the breed's origin is at its hottest. Walking must move to before sunrise and after dark for roughly four months.
What health tests should an Irish Red and White Setter have?
The Kennel Club lists prioritising genetic diversity as good practice, and a DNA test for canine leukocyte adhesion deficiency, eye testing under the BVA/KC/ISDS Eye Scheme and hip testing under the BVA/KC Hip Dysplasia Scheme as best practice. Since 6 January 2025 an imported dog must be proven clear or a carrier of CLAD to be registered.
How long do Irish Red and White Setters live?
No study has published a lifespan median for this breed alone. The largest UK longevity study folded it into the Irish Setter group, whose merged median is 12.9 years on 547 deaths. The Kennel Club gives a category of over 10 years and the American Kennel Club a page figure of 11 to 15 years, neither of which is a measurement.
Is the Irish Red and White Setter a good guard dog?
No, and no standard for the breed claims it is. The Kennel Club describes the temperament as happy, good natured and affectionate and the characteristics as biddable, highly intelligent and a good worker. The breed was developed to find and point game birds at a distance, which is the opposite of a territorial job.
Do Irish Red and White Setters shed?
Yes. The Royal Kennel Club answers the shedding question with a flat yes and puts grooming frequency at more than once a week, on a medium-length coat with long silky feathering on the legs, ears, flank, chest and throat. The AKC standard separately forbids shaving the coat with clippers as a way of managing it.
Compare with similar breeds
Irish Red and White Setter sits in 2 Bonbeno groups. Each one compares it directly against the breeds it is genuinely an alternative to, on the same figures.